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2004-11-01

[][] 参考資料:「NHK安否情報」に関する考察(yukatti) 15:22

これも参考として。※こういった問題を書くカテゴリーは「日記編集」になりますでしょうか?

セキュリティ個人情報保護の面から見た問題点の指摘。詐欺に悪用されてしまった事例もあります。

[]問題解決 トラックバック(yukatti) 15:31

ところで、下記「現地の声」チェーンメールの項が「週刊!木村剛」該当記事のトラックバックに載っていてびっくりしました。どなたかトラックバック送信されたんでしょうか。※第三者によって勝手トラックバックを送信される場合もありうると思うのでいちおう念のため伺います。

garyoです(11/01)

 私が送りました。 

>「間違っているよ」という情報もTB等ですぐに伝わる気がします。

 これを書いているときにTB送ったほうがいいかなと思ってTB送りました。

 一言書いておけばよかったです。すみません。

yukatti 11/1 16:03

ありがとうございます、拝承しました。

[]問題解決 「現地の声」チェーンメール(yukatti) 03:30

この「小千谷市の声」ですが、実はここ数日、同一の文章をウェブ上のあちらこちら(含むはてなダイアリー)で見かけるようになりました。それだけでなくチェーンメールにもなって、さらに内容も少しずつ変化していっているよう……ウェブでの伝播はそういうものかもしれませんがこのメッセージの広まり方はあまりにも急激で、いったいこれは何なのかと不思議になってきたところ、

d:id:gotanda6さんによる下記記事が参考になりました。ぜひご一読ください。

このグループも、冷静に行きましょう。

真偽の分からない情報を載せるのは慎重にしましょう。

あと……個人的には、緊急時を過ぎればモノよりお金が必要となってくるだろう、そのためにも被災者にお送りするならば個人で出来る支援としてはこれからはますます義援金が何よりだと思っています。。

Yunyです。(11/01、10:39)

パンティライナーが欲しいとかの情報は、小千谷市ボランティアさんのブログ新潟震災ボランティア日記」にもありました。

もしかして、元記事かと思われ、今日行ってみたら。

http://helpme.ameblo.jp/entry-1ea6eef0ae3f1d9f223452dedd4a66c1.html

いつのまにかチェーンメールになっていたことにとまどっておられますね。

元記事はいま、非公開になっています。

1週間やってみて、ちょっとネット情報の恐さを感じるようになりました。

どこまでを、「現地発」の掲載すべき情報とするべきか、判断が難しい。

とくに私の担当が、ブログよりも掲示板メインでやっているので、書きっぱ言いっぱの情報を鵜呑みにして書いて良いのかと。嘘かもしれないし。ブログの記事はそれなりに読まれることを想定することが多いようですが、掲示板はそういった人間の編集本能が働かない匿名突発情報なので、真偽判断に迷うのです。

裏まで取ろうとすれば、必然的に手間と時間がかかり、更新不能になる可能性もあります。どの記事を御借りし、どの記事を無視するか、判断に迷うことが増えてきました。

やっていることに意義がないとは思いませんが。マスコミが公式情報として書いていることだけが真実だとは思いませんが。どの記事を信じるか、というのが個人の裁量にまかされるのが恐いかな、と。

新潟震災ボランティア日記」さんも、

blogという<開かれた個人の日記>の情報を、

情報の発信者として、

どこまで守れるか? どこまで責任を持てるのか?

情報の受信者として、

どこまで信じるか? どう活かしていくか?

という部分について、これからも真剣に考えていきたいと思います。

と。同じことになやんでいるみたいです。

わたしは担当URLの現地生情報っぽいのをそのまま拾っていますが、

garyoさんはどう言った判断で拾われていますか?

garyoです(11/01)

週間!木村剛 でも取り上げられていますね。「小千谷市の声」

http://kimuratakeshi.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2004/10/blog_of_the_wee_2.html#more

チェーンメール化したのはそれだけ文章にインパクトがあったのではないでしょうか。読んだ人を憤慨させてしまうような。

はてな人力検索でもURLを紹介して、その情報の真偽については質問者が判断するようになっていますよね。情報元のURLを表示することで見た人に真偽を判断してもらうしかないと思います。

ブログ情報の伝達能力はすごいと思います。正しい情報も間違った情報もすばやく伝わると思いますが、間違った情報が訂正されるのも早いのではないでしょうか。多くの人が見て自分でも判断するわけですから。「間違っているよ」という情報もTB等ですぐに伝わる気がします。

情報を収集する判断は1)何か告知されている。2)現地の様子を伝えている。この2点で判断しています。>Yunyさん。

yukatti 11/1 15:05

いろいろと情報フィードバックありがとうございます。新潟震災ボランティア日記の存在については、d:id:gotanda6さんのコメント欄にちょっと書かせて頂きました。

真偽の判断はgaryoさんのおっしゃる通りだとは思います。でもやはり出来るだけ一次情報に近い情報がよさそうですね。

ネット上の伝達で難しいのは

  • 引用を繰り返すうちに出所がわからなくなる、場合によっては「確からしさ」が増してしまう(引用されるたびにそれを掲載する価値がある・もしくは《正しい》と判断した人が増えているということ)
  • タイムラグの問題。過去の話なのに今あるかのように流れてしまう

といったこともありそう。あと今回はブログが広がり始めたところなので、使っている人間としてもどのくらいの威力があるのかとかコメント欄、TB等の使い方などまだまだわかっていないところがお互いにあるんじゃないかと思います。

nobodynobody2004/11/01 11:50横からすみません。はてなダイアリーのキーワードにも、現地発の情報を掲載するものがあったと思います。(っていうか、ある)。で、あそこに書かれている内容の中には、もう古くなっている情報もあるのではないか、と、気になっています。(例えば、「透析を必要としているかたがお二人、たすけを待っている」という、赤い字で書かれた情報とか)。
えっと、みなさんのご負担を増やしてしまったら本末転倒なので、「両方メンテしてください」というお願いでは*ない*という点に、ご注意ください。個人的な発想としては、ダイアリーキーワードの側は、各種情報源のまとめと、こちらへのリンク程度に、整理してするのも一案かなと思いますけれど、どのようになさるかは、もちろん、お任せいたします。よこから、ごちゃごちゃと、すみません。
側面支援の皆様がたが、過労で倒れてしまうような事態は避けなければなりません。どうぞ、休養もとりつつ(精神的なものも含む)、ご活動ください。お疲れさまです。ではでは。

yukattiyukatti2004/11/02 02:15ご指摘ありがとうございます。上記のようなこともありますし、古い情報はキーワードからは消して(必要ならグループにアーカイブ化(?)して)いった方が良さそう、ですね。

YunyYuny2004/11/04 01:35http://d.hatena.ne.jp/Yuny/20041103
に書いたのですが、しばらくはてなを休憩したい(平たく訳せばそういうことです)のですが、よろしいでしょうか?
数日か1週間くらいか、もっとかかるか、分かりませんけれど、ここの活動にもご迷惑をかけてしまいますが、気持ちの整理が付くまでおねがいしてもいいですか? garyoさん、yukattiさん。

yukattiyukatti2004/11/04 02:10充電も大切! とわたしが書くのもなんですが(あまり実質的な活動できないので……)、どうぞ充電して下さい。

nobodynobody2004/11/04 02:50グループメンバでもないのにすいません。一般論で言っても、「自分の状態をみきわめて、無理が来そうになったら、いったん休憩する」というのは、大事なことだった筈です。(例えば、何人かで登山する場合とかを想像してみてください)。なので、いったん「はてな」を休憩する期間をつくる必要があると判断なさったのなら、その判断を大事にするのがいいと思います。さくっと「気持ちを整理する」。そして、その間は、遠慮したり、気に病むことなく、リフレッシュする、と。
そのほかのメンバさんも、どうぞご無理をなさらぬように。ではでは。

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